Showing posts with label melungeon. Show all posts
Showing posts with label melungeon. Show all posts

Wednesday, April 25, 2012

O Them Melungeon's: A Multi-Ethnic Population ; Commentary by Joann Pezzullo, Scott Preston Collins

Melungeons, A Multi-Ethnic Population
Estes, Goins, Hennigg, Crain.

http://www.jogg.info/72/files/Estes.pdf
http://www.jogg.info/72/files/Estes.pdf
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    • Scott Preston Collins I haven't read through this PDF report yet.

    • Scott Preston Collins

       Seems though from a quick scan of it that relies heavily on DeMarce and Y-DNA testing which has been cherry picked to no end. 


      You can not determine a families race or ethnicity based on one line Y-DNA testings. They also got the first appearance of the word Melungeon wrong. I'll be reviewing it further.

    • Joanne Pezzullo
       Going to take some time to go over this but to start out with. Estes, Goins, Ferguson and Crain writes; 


      "The oldest progenitor of the Bunch family grouping is attributed to a John Bunch who was born about 1630 and arrived in Lancaster Co., Va. about 1650. He owned land on the Pamunkey River by 1670 and had 2 sons, John and Paul Bunch. He is the progenitor of the Bunch family in both Claiborne and Hawkins/Hancock Counties in Tennesse"


       You'll note this report is peppered with sources but NOT genealogy of the BUNCH family. HEINEGG doesn't even go that far --- he says John Bunch MAY BE the father ..

    •  STRETCHING THE TRUTH? Valentine and Vardy were brothers? I wonder if Estes, Goins, Ferguson and Crain all believe this -- "Valentine Collins Group - E1b1a8a Valentine (29) and Vardy (Vardeman) Collins were believed to be brothers, both sons of Samuel Collins born in Louisa County, Virginia where in 1745 Samuel was summoned to court for concealing tithables. 
      In 1771, Samuel is found on the tax list in Botetourt County, Virginia along with a John Vardeman. He is later found along with the other Melungeon families in Botetourt, Fincastle and Montgomery Counties in Virginia and finally, Wilkes County in North Carolina."

    • Joanne Pezzullo Wow.... seriously?
      2 hours ago · 

    • Joanne Pezzullo Page 48; "Valentine Collins Group Ethnicity This haplogroup, E1b1a8a is of sub-Saharan African origin. 
      The concealed tithables incident in 1745 in Louisa County involving Samuel Collins, *believe to be the father of Valentine*, suggests that the Collins, or their wives, were people of color. The haplogroup E1b1a8a designation supports the historical records suggesting that Collins males were "of color."

    • Joanne Pezzullo Page 48 Next Paragraph; "Vardy Collins Group - R1a1
      Vardy (21) has long been believed to be the brother of Valentine Collins. He could have been a half brother, but** based on the DNA evidence, these two lines do not share a common paternal
      ancestor.**


    • Joanne Pezzullo Wow...

    • Joanne Pezzullo They can't even get the genealogies straight. The Gideon, Jordan and George of Sandy Bluffs ARE NOT same as Louisa County. I've told Jack Goins this numerous times and sent him the documentation.

      "The Gibson family is first found in 1627 in Charles City County where Gibby Gibson leaves a will wherein Hannah Dennum is an heir. In 1728 Gilbert Gibson was granted land in Hanover 53 County, Va., a part that later would become Louisa County where he died in 1748 leaving sons Gideon, Jordan and George. All three sons would be found in South Carolina near the Sandy Bluffs, a well known Indian
      trader area where numerous Indian families lived. 



      A Gideon Gibson was there as early as 1730, Jordan and George as late as 1773. In 1720, Gideon Gibson and Paul Bunch, reported to have been free men in Virginia are now found in South Carolina identified as men of color, married to white wives. Both Jordan and George would return to North Carolina and migrate with the other Melungeon families through Grayson County, Virginia and Wilkes County, NC, George eventually settling in Todd County, Kentucky where he applied for a Revolutionary War pension application."
    •   Page 54; Lifted straight off MY WEBSITE; "He is living in Lee County, Virginia in 1820 and Mulberry Gap, Claiborne Co., Tennessee in 1830 listed as a free person of color.


       He is found in early court records of Hawkins Co., Tenn. in 1828 in the lawsuit Charles Gibson vs. Bryson Gibson. He was in Floyd County, Ky. in 1850 and in Morgan County, Kentucky by 1860 where he died. Bryson is likely the brother of Henry Gibson who died in Morgan County 1857, also a son of Thomas Gibson, possibly the same Thomas that is found with Henry Gibson in the Stony Creek Church records

    • Joanne Pezzullo http://www.historical-melungeons.com/carmel.html

      historical-melungeons.com
      If Vardy Collins and Buck Gibson were the 'head and source' of the Melungeons th...
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    • Joanne Pezzullo I seriously cannot believe these four people put their names on this report.

    • Joanne Pezzullo Just last year Jack Goins posted on the Melungeon Rootsweb list to me; "your ***imaginary Melungeons on the Pee Dee River? ***"http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/melungeon/2011-08/1313623855

    • Joanne Pezzullo


      On page 59 Estes, GOINS, Ferguson, and Crain write;


       "This match is particularly important because it shows that the designation Melungeon, the term used to identify this group of South Carolina people, seems to predate the Melungeon community in Hawkins County, being used in reference to Solomon Bolton who is living in the Spartanburg District of South Carolina prior to 1800." Sounds like backpeddling to me

Thursday, January 26, 2012

NO-ONE should use Paul Heinegg

Steven Pony Hill6:08pm Jan 26

Here is a PERFECT example of why NO-ONE should use Paul Heinegg as a source…

“LOCKLEAR FAMILY
Jacob Lockeleer, born say 1636, was a Frenchman who arrived in Virginia without an indenture and was bound to Edward Diggs, Esquire, for four years. He completed his indenture in York County, Virginia, on 24 April 1660 [DWO 4:86, 89]. He may have been the ancestor of the Locklears who were early residents of Lunenburg County, Virginia, and Edgecombe County, North Carolina. They were taxed as mixed-race in Bladen and Granville counties, North Carolina, in the 1760's. In 1895 Mrs. Mary C. Norment in her book, The Lowrie History, claimed that Bettie Locklayer was "a half-breed Tuscarora Indian woman." In the twentieth century they were among those light skinned people in Robeson County who were called "Lumbee Indians." However, it is more likely that they were already a mixture of African, European, and perhaps Native American when they came to North Carolina. Certainly, their white and African American neighbors considered them "free Negroes." William Chavis charged "Thomas Lockery ... Free Negro" with trespass in Granville County court in 1770 [CR 044.928.15].”

[Sample pulled from Heinegg’s website www.freeafricanamericans.com, a favorite source for Eastern band of Cherokee members who testified against the federal recognition of the Lumbee tribe]

While I think it is highly possible that the Locklear actually do descend from the French LaClair family (say “La-Clair” five time fast and you will easily see how it changed to Locklear when recorded by the mainly Scottish and English settlers of mid-Carolinas), Mr. Heinegg does his usual ‘bending’ of facts by inferring connections that cannot be documented (his research is rife with these inferences). First, a clear connection between Jacob Lockeleer of mid-1660’s York, VA (if that’s even how it’s spelled on the actual document…Mr. Heinegg is quite liberal with his name interpretations on source documents) and the Locklears of North Carolina of the mid-1700’s cannot be made, inferred, or even suspected when 100 years of time separate them and no documentation exists connecting them. Second, he assigns “a mixture of African, European, and perhaps Native American” to the Locklear ancestry without providing any evidence whatsoever. Heinegg makes his own agenda quite clear by his choice of language in this simple sentence…right after quoting a 1800’s primary source who clearly identifies the Locklear ancestry as White and Indian, he quickly dismisses any notion of Native, or even a purely White-Native admixture, and even goes so far as to add in an African element without any supporting facts. Finally, Heinegg completes his paragraph by once again taking liberties with spelling to associate “Lockery…Free Negro” with the Locklear family (if indeed it even is spelled Lockery…with Heinegg’s track record it could have been Rockersly, Lockerby, Lodeny, etc).

Mr. Heinegg married an African-American woman, and I suspect, when met with bristling racism from either his white family, or his bride’s African family, he set out on an obsessive agenda to prove that his wife’s family was not 100% African, that White-African intermarriage was commonplace since the founding of America, and that numerous ‘white’ families also had Negro ancestry. Unfortunately this otherwise noble quest has been tainted by Heinegg’s twisted need to prove that EVERYBODY in America is a “mulatto.”