Wednesday, April 25, 2012

O Them Melungeon's: A Multi-Ethnic Population ; Commentary by Joann Pezzullo, Scott Preston Collins

Melungeons, A Multi-Ethnic Population
Estes, Goins, Hennigg, Crain.

    • Scott Preston Collins I haven't read through this PDF report yet.

    • Scott Preston Collins

       Seems though from a quick scan of it that relies heavily on DeMarce and Y-DNA testing which has been cherry picked to no end. 

      You can not determine a families race or ethnicity based on one line Y-DNA testings. They also got the first appearance of the word Melungeon wrong. I'll be reviewing it further.

    • Joanne Pezzullo
       Going to take some time to go over this but to start out with. Estes, Goins, Ferguson and Crain writes; 

      "The oldest progenitor of the Bunch family grouping is attributed to a John Bunch who was born about 1630 and arrived in Lancaster Co., Va. about 1650. He owned land on the Pamunkey River by 1670 and had 2 sons, John and Paul Bunch. He is the progenitor of the Bunch family in both Claiborne and Hawkins/Hancock Counties in Tennesse"

       You'll note this report is peppered with sources but NOT genealogy of the BUNCH family. HEINEGG doesn't even go that far --- he says John Bunch MAY BE the father ..

    •  STRETCHING THE TRUTH? Valentine and Vardy were brothers? I wonder if Estes, Goins, Ferguson and Crain all believe this -- "Valentine Collins Group - E1b1a8a Valentine (29) and Vardy (Vardeman) Collins were believed to be brothers, both sons of Samuel Collins born in Louisa County, Virginia where in 1745 Samuel was summoned to court for concealing tithables. 
      In 1771, Samuel is found on the tax list in Botetourt County, Virginia along with a John Vardeman. He is later found along with the other Melungeon families in Botetourt, Fincastle and Montgomery Counties in Virginia and finally, Wilkes County in North Carolina."

    • Joanne Pezzullo Wow.... seriously?
      2 hours ago · 

    • Joanne Pezzullo Page 48; "Valentine Collins Group Ethnicity This haplogroup, E1b1a8a is of sub-Saharan African origin. 
      The concealed tithables incident in 1745 in Louisa County involving Samuel Collins, *believe to be the father of Valentine*, suggests that the Collins, or their wives, were people of color. The haplogroup E1b1a8a designation supports the historical records suggesting that Collins males were "of color."

    • Joanne Pezzullo Page 48 Next Paragraph; "Vardy Collins Group - R1a1
      Vardy (21) has long been believed to be the brother of Valentine Collins. He could have been a half brother, but** based on the DNA evidence, these two lines do not share a common paternal

    • Joanne Pezzullo Wow...

    • Joanne Pezzullo They can't even get the genealogies straight. The Gideon, Jordan and George of Sandy Bluffs ARE NOT same as Louisa County. I've told Jack Goins this numerous times and sent him the documentation.

      "The Gibson family is first found in 1627 in Charles City County where Gibby Gibson leaves a will wherein Hannah Dennum is an heir. In 1728 Gilbert Gibson was granted land in Hanover 53 County, Va., a part that later would become Louisa County where he died in 1748 leaving sons Gideon, Jordan and George. All three sons would be found in South Carolina near the Sandy Bluffs, a well known Indian
      trader area where numerous Indian families lived. 

      A Gideon Gibson was there as early as 1730, Jordan and George as late as 1773. In 1720, Gideon Gibson and Paul Bunch, reported to have been free men in Virginia are now found in South Carolina identified as men of color, married to white wives. Both Jordan and George would return to North Carolina and migrate with the other Melungeon families through Grayson County, Virginia and Wilkes County, NC, George eventually settling in Todd County, Kentucky where he applied for a Revolutionary War pension application."
    •   Page 54; Lifted straight off MY WEBSITE; "He is living in Lee County, Virginia in 1820 and Mulberry Gap, Claiborne Co., Tennessee in 1830 listed as a free person of color.

       He is found in early court records of Hawkins Co., Tenn. in 1828 in the lawsuit Charles Gibson vs. Bryson Gibson. He was in Floyd County, Ky. in 1850 and in Morgan County, Kentucky by 1860 where he died. Bryson is likely the brother of Henry Gibson who died in Morgan County 1857, also a son of Thomas Gibson, possibly the same Thomas that is found with Henry Gibson in the Stony Creek Church records

    • Joanne Pezzullo
      If Vardy Collins and Buck Gibson were the 'head and source' of the Melungeons th...
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    • Joanne Pezzullo I seriously cannot believe these four people put their names on this report.

    • Joanne Pezzullo Just last year Jack Goins posted on the Melungeon Rootsweb list to me; "your ***imaginary Melungeons on the Pee Dee River? ***"

    • Joanne Pezzullo

      On page 59 Estes, GOINS, Ferguson, and Crain write;

       "This match is particularly important because it shows that the designation Melungeon, the term used to identify this group of South Carolina people, seems to predate the Melungeon community in Hawkins County, being used in reference to Solomon Bolton who is living in the Spartanburg District of South Carolina prior to 1800." Sounds like backpeddling to me

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